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How Do Those Vulnerable to Terror Recruitment Respond to YouTube Counter-Narrative Videos?

Anne Speckhard, Maha Ghazi and Molly Ellenberg

As published in Homeland Security Today

YouTube, first online in 2005, was one of the earliest social media platforms used by terrorist organizations to spread their propaganda. Although many such groups have used YouTube and other online platforms for malicious purposes, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria [ISIS] has become notorious over the past years for its prowess in radicalizing and recruiting vulnerable individuals using, in part, their high-quality videos promising everything from adventure and romance, to a pure Islamic lifestyle, to a sense of belonging and personal significance to both men and women who left their homes to travel to fight with and live under ISIS’s self-proclaimed Caliphate. If they could not travel, ISIS online recruiters were also ready to instruct them how to attack at home on ISIS’s behalf.

As the premiere video-sharing application, YouTube has been particularly useful to terrorist groups, including ISIS. As such, it has also been a target for counter terrorism efforts, namely the use of counter narrative videos to disrupt and refute the messages put forth by these groups. Beyond the criticisms of some counter narrative videos (particularly that the messenger is often untrustworthy), counter narratives on YouTube have faced a unique challenge: recommendation algorithms. It appears that counter narratives on YouTube, perhaps more so than those posted on other platforms, are more likely to recommend actual terrorist propaganda to their viewers. This may be because counter narratives used on other platforms, such as those run by the authors of this article on Facebook and Instagram, are run as ads and are therefore not subject to the same types of algorithms that base recommendations solely on the name of the video. Regardless of the reason, if counter narratives are to be used on YouTube, it is imperative that terrorist content be removed and the recommendations work in the opposite direction. That is, if counter narrative videos do lead to recommendations of terrorist propaganda, it should also be the case that those watching terrorist propaganda are recommended counter narratives in turn. Although YouTube did take steps in 2017 to curb the spread of propaganda, terrorist groups often find workarounds and there is nevertheless a great deal of work to be done to effectively stop online terrorist radicalization and recruitment in its tracks.

The International Center for the Study of Violent Extremism [ICSVE] has run the Breaking the ISIS Brand Counter Narrative Project for years, demonstrating in numerous studies the counter narratives’ resonance among Facebook and focus group audiences. Breaking the ISIS Brand videos address the first aforementioned criticism, untrustworthiness, by using actual ISIS insiders – defectors, returnees, and imprisoned cadres – as speakers, telling their personal, emotionally evocative narratives regarding their time in ISIS and the harm it brought upon them and their families. One purpose of studying the videos on YouTube, however, was to examine whether YouTube’s recommendation algorithms would work to benefit organizations using counter narratives. This could be extrapolated from the ability of the videos to organically garner, without any effortful promotion, views and engagement among members of our target audience – those vulnerable to online radicalization and recruitment. Of course, we could not assess whether viewers were brought to our videos through recommendation algorithms, but if they were to find the videos by searching on ISIS-related terms (all of the videos have either ambiguous or pro-ISIS names), that would similarly indicate the utility of counter narratives on YouTube.

Our results suggest that this was the case. We studied viewer comments on each of the 89 Arabic-language videos posted on the ICSVE YouTube channel, which were posted between December 2017 and July 2020. In total, we analyzed 1,185 comments using both human effort and the content analysis software NVivo 12. We found that, based on the common themes of the comments, we were reaching individuals who may have been exposed to ISIS’s ideology and who may support, or be considering supporting, ISIS. We classified commenters as ISIS supporters, ISIS opponents, Islamophobic commenters, and those who were confused as to whether or not they should support ISIS. Interestingly, most of these types of commenters could be identified in each of the five broader content-based categories established through thematic analysis: Conspiracy theories; credibility of the speaker; geopolitical issues; the ummah, global Islam, and identity; and religious arguments. We also found a breadth of emotional sentiments in the comments, including anger and hostility, pride, fear, vulnerability, sympathy, and schadenfreude, indicating that the viewers were emotionally engaged with the videos. This is a primary goal of the Breaking the ISIS Brand Counter Narrative Project, as one of the reasons previous counter narrative efforts have fallen flat was their use of logical and cognitive arguments to attempt to fight the terrorists’ deeply emotionally charged arguments that often drive viewers into action.

In each of the content-based categories, we found evidence that we were reaching the target audience. For example, references to conspiracy theories indicated at least some level of engagement with online communities which can delve into violent extremism. Moreover, these comments also indicated an understanding of the arguments that ISIS uses, such as the idea that the West and Israel are at war with Islam and that Muslims have an obligation to wage jihad to defend their religion. However, we have found that some of these conspiracy theories may be used by other militant jihadist groups to lure supporters away from ISIS, such as the theory that ISIS was created by the West to destroy Islam and that former Caliph Abu Bakr al Baghdadi was actually a Mossad agent.

The comments regarding speaker credibility demonstrated a desire to attack the speaker and ICSVE, the organization that posted the video. These comments can be closely tied to those regarding conspiracy theories, as many claimed that the speaker had been paid or forced by malevolent countries to speak against ISIS and, indeed, against Islam itself. Although these comments, and all of those mentioned presently, merit future study, we are confident that the comments attacking the speakers’ credibility are not necessarily an indication of actual mistrust, but rather anger at the message, as we have not received the same frequency of such responses on Facebook or in focus groups, where the viewers’ identity is less concealed.

The comments mentioning geopolitical issues were also a key indication that we were reaching the target audience, as those vulnerable to ISIS recruitment are often those who are engaged with world events, but who view such events through a particular lens. For example, one key difference between ISIS and al Qaeda has been ISIS’s focus on fighting the Arab taghut, that is Arab leaders who ISIS believes are betraying Muslim values and true shariah and immediately declaring an Islamic Caliphate. In contrast, al Qaeda wished to work slower toward a Caliphate with a primary focus on fighting the “far enemy” while proselytizing to other Muslims who do not adhere to their fundamentalist and violent interpretation of Islamic law in the hopes of bringing them onboard. Many commenters referenced the taghut as a reason to make hijrah (to emigrate) to a true Islamic State, such as that they claim was established by ISIS.

The comments regarding the ummah, global Islam, and identity again indicated the viewers’ attempts to twist legitimate and meaningful concerns into cause for violent action. In particular, the idea that all Muslims are brothers no matter their race or identity is not cause for concern. However, the idea that all members of the ummah should therefore leave their homes to join ISIS and fight against all others is certainly concerning. Similarly, the idea that Muslims should protect and defend other Muslims is not in and of itself problematic, except when it is exploited by terrorist groups such as ISIS, as they did when they called Muslims from all over the world to fight to protect Syrian civilians from the regime of Bashar al Assad (mentioned thrice in geopolitical comments), but then through their reign of terror ruined the lives of those same civilians. Other comments in this realm referred to the historical disputes between Sunni and Shia Muslims. These comments were phrased in such a way (such as referring to Shia as Rafida – hypocrites) that indicated that Shia would be vulnerable to terrorist efforts to take advantage of sectarian strife and resentment, as ISIS did in Iraq during their inception.

The final category of comments were religious arguments. These comments, like many of those in the other comments, can indicate either a resistance to radicalization or a vulnerability to it. Specifically, a deep understanding of the Qur’an, Sunnah, and hadiths often ensures that individuals do not fall prey to purported scholars who twist sacred Islamic texts for their own violent purposes. However, when people do not have a strong understanding of these texts but often read the interpretations put forth by others, they may be convinced, as many ISIS members were, that what they are doing or supporting has been religiously ordained and is morally justified. Many comments indicated the latter. Operating under the assumption that viewers came across the counter narrative videos after watching or searching for ISIS content, it is unsurprising that many commenters would reference violent interpretations of Islamic scriptures that are spewed on YouTube, but that they would not demonstrate a solid independent understanding of those texts. In contrast, there were a number of comments that used Islamic references to reject ISIS and their practices – these commenters were classified as ISIS opponents and, although they were not part of our target audience, we did appreciate the presence of their comments.

This initial qualitative study of Breaking the ISIS Brand counter narrative videos on YouTube indicates that although there may be pitfalls to the use of counter narratives, they can be effective and gain significant organic traction on YouTube, likely through YouTube’s recommendation algorithms as well as through terrorist-related search terms. Future studies will employ quantitative means and will also examine comments by viewers on videos in other languages, such as French, as many foreign terrorist fighters who joined ISIS were from France. Looking at this study alone, however, it is clear that the ICSVE Breaking the ISIS Brand counter narrative videos are reaching the target audience on YouTube without any effortful promotion and that they are engaging the viewers enough to write emotionally charged comments indicating that they were watched and the content of the counter narratives is hitting a nerve with those in the vulnerable target group that the authors had hoped to reach.

Reference for this article: Speckhard, Anne, Ghazi, Maha, and Ellenberg, Molly (March 30, 2021). How Do Those Vulnerable to Terror Recruitment Respond to YouTube Counter-Narrative Videos?. Homeland Security Today

About the Authors:

Anne Speckhard, Ph.D., is Director of the International Center for the Study of Violent Extremism (ICSVE) and serves as an Adjunct Associate Professor of Psychiatry at Georgetown University School of Medicine. She has interviewed over 700 terrorists, their family members and supporters in various parts of the world including in Western Europe, the Balkans, Central Asia, the Former Soviet Union and the Middle East. In the past five years years, she has in-depth psychologically interviewed over 250 ISIS defectors, returnees and prisoners  as well as 16 al Shabaab cadres (and also interviewed their family members as well as ideologues) studying their trajectories into and out of terrorism, their experiences inside ISIS (and al Shabaab), as well as developing the Breaking the ISIS Brand Counter Narrative Project materials from these interviews which includes over 250 short counter narrative videos of terrorists denouncing their groups as un-Islamic, corrupt and brutal which have been used in over 150 Facebook and Instagram campaigns globally.  Since 2020 she has also launched the ICSVE Escape Hate Counter Narrative Project interviewing 25 white supremacists and members of hate groups developing counternarratives from their interviews as well. She has also been training key stakeholders in law enforcement, intelligence, educators, and other countering violent extremism professionals, both locally and internationally, on the psychology of terrorism, the use of counter-narrative messaging materials produced by ICSVE as well as studying the use of children as violent actors by groups such as ISIS.  Dr. Speckhard has given consultations and police trainings to U.S., German, UK, Dutch, Austrian, Swiss, Belgian, Danish, Iraqi, Jordanian and Thai national police and security officials, among others, as well as trainings to elite hostage negotiation teams. She also consults to foreign governments on issues of terrorist prevention and interventions and repatriation and rehabilitation of ISIS foreign fighters, wives and children. In 2007, she was responsible for designing the psychological and Islamic challenge aspects of the Detainee Rehabilitation Program in Iraq to be applied to 20,000 + detainees and 800 juveniles. She is a sought after counterterrorism expert and has consulted to NATO, OSCE, the EU Commission and EU Parliament, European and other foreign governments and to the U.S. Senate & House, Departments of State, Defense, Justice, Homeland Security, Health & Human Services, CIA, and FBI and appeared on CNN, BBC, NPR, Fox News, MSNBC, CTV, CBC and in Time, The New York Times, The Washington Post, London Times and many other publications. She regularly writes a column for Homeland Security Today and speaks and publishes on the topics of the psychology of radicalization and terrorism and is the author of several books, including Talking to Terrorists, Bride of ISIS, Undercover Jihadi and ISIS Defectors: Inside Stories of the Terrorist Caliphate. Her research has also been published in Global Security: Health, Science and Policy, Behavioral Sciences of Terrorism and Political Aggression, Journal of African Security, Journal of Strategic Security, the Journal of Human Security, Bidhaan: An International Journal of Somali Studies, Journal for Deradicalization, Perspectives on Terrorism and the International Studies Journal to name a few.  Her academic publications are found here: and on the ICSVE website  Follow @AnneSpeckhard

Maha Ghazi is a research fellow at ICSVE studying the effects of ICSVE counternarratives in Arab countries, interviewing ex jihadists and working on issues of terrorist repatriation, rehabilitation and reintegration efforts. Maha is a Moroccan/ Egyptian Ph.D. candidate in University Mohamed V- Rabat (Morocco) in political and international studies. Her dissertation focuses on deradicalization programs in prisons, rehabilitation and reintegration of ex jihadist inmates. Maha’s Master’s thesis, with which she graduated with honors, analyzes the national strategies countering violent extremism inside prisons highlighting the Moroccan “Musalaha” program, launched in 2017. Maha Speaks Arabic (native: Classical, Moroccan, Egyptian and other dialects), English and French.

Molly Ellenberg is a research fellow at the International Center for the Study of Violent Extremism [ICSVE]. Molly is a doctoral student in social psychology at the University of Maryland. She holds an M.A. in Forensic Psychology from The George Washington University and a B.S. in Psychology with a Specialization in Clinical Psychology from UC San Diego. At ICSVE, she is working on coding and analyzing the data from ICSVE’s qualitative research interviews of ISIS and al Shabaab terrorists, as well as white supremacists, members of hate groups and conspiracy theorists; running Facebook campaigns to disrupt ISIS’s and al Shabaab’s online and face-to-face recruitment; and developing and giving trainings for use with the Breaking the ISIS Brand Counter Narrative Project videos. Molly has presented original research at the International Summit on Violence, Abuse, and Trauma, the GCTC International Counter Terrorism Conference, UC San Diego Research Conferences, and for security professionals in the European Union. She is also an inaugural member of the UNAOC’s first youth consultation for preventing violent extremism through sport. Her research has also been published in Psychological InquiryGlobal Security: Health, Science and PolicyAJOB NeuroscienceBehavioral Sciences of Terrorism and Political AggressionJournal of Child and Adolescent Trauma, the Journal of Strategic Security, the Journal of Human SecurityBidhaan: An International Journal of Somali Studies, and the International Studies Journal. Her previous research experiences include positions at Stanford University, UC San Diego, and the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism at the University of Maryland.

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